As many of you will know through the various grapevines that exist in the Pagan Community, There is trouble brewing in Manchester.

This is basically because a few of us have created a moot for a different Forum. This is a good think in my opinion as it creates diversity and more interest within the Community as a whole. In future it is expected that the Spiritkin moot will occur on the first or second Saturdays of each month. This means that along with the WiccaUK moot and the North West Pagan moots a monthly pagan social event listing would be as follows:

1. Spiritkin Moot - Visits to exhibits, museums, galleries, days out etc
2. NW Pagan Moot - A Discussion Group
3. WiccaUK Moot - A Social Moot

In many pagan's opinions this means that there will be three, very diverse moots that will occur on un-conflicting dates. Surely this can only be a good thing?

However due to this Saturday (28th February) being the last occasion for many of us to attend an exhibit at the Science and Industry Museum, it was decided that the first moot would unfortunately occur on the same day as the WiccaUK one. However we did not expect there to be much of a problem as many of those attending the Spiritkin moot have never or not regularly attended the WiccaUK Moot.

It was decided that the talk at New Aeon would be attended as it is an open talk, organised by the proprietors of the shop Gary and Monica, separate to the WiccaUK moot which does not actually start until the arrival at the pub.

There has also been alot of contention around a post started by myself titles "Age Restrictions on Mooters". I started this post entirely because I knew that a new mooter called "Beautiful Fighter" has tried to ban underagers. I note hers is the first reply in a similar vein, despite her being underage herself. I then posted trying to establish that if we were following licensing laws then “Beautiful Fighter” should also be banned. I accept that this post was quite angry and annoyed, I ranted and raved. In my defence I would like to point out that contrary to comments posted by “Buffster” among others, I am not Anti-WiccaUK, I am actually quite grateful, and attribute the start of the Pagan Scene in Manchester to WiccaUK, without which there was no moots prior to the first one last year.

I have been a member of WiccaUK under several usernames over several years, pretty much from when it started, I have never posted such an annoyed post, and I am severely annoyed that one angry post could create such responses. And I note that my initial question has STILL not being answered i.e. "why are the age restrictions not clear across the board" e.g. underagers are underage be they 17 11 months or 14 and a landlord is unlikely to approve of 17s in his pub...

Also I would like to point out that the reason I have not attended a moot since November is due to the severe amount of backstabbing and bitching that occurs both within the site and the moot. As a result I made the decision to no longer attend.

I also note with interest that several of my suggestions have been taken onboard:

1. Full Members and Online Members after noticing that for many of us in the North there are no benefits for being a full member.

2. Not only was my suggestion for the Samhain Ball taken onboard but I almost single-handedly organised it: Booked Bar, Food and had imput in several other areas...

I will not be posting here again, I have proof of all of the above points if any would like it please email me.

In closing I have posted this exact same post to the following places due to the tendencies of this forum to "lose" posts.

* Wicca UK
* Spiritkin

I have also taken a screenshot to prove that this post existed in case the site does "lose" posts. It is on my website http://www.riverdragonslair.says.it

Thanks for the good times… Well, lets just say thanks.

River

Screen Shots 1, 2, 3, and the removed post...